Why as a White Hindu I still try to influence racist Whites

I have never been one to wait for rumors about me to spread, I like to foresee any gossip and set the record straight myself before anyone else thinks to malign me.  I don't think I need to explain to most people that I am a radical character. I am a Vedic supremacist and absolutely hate anything which contradicts this. I am not afraid to aggressively preach against Christianity, Judaism, and Islam and when it comes to Hindu issues I do not shy away from taboo topics like sex. Now it might not be intuitive to some people but radicals tend to like the company of radicals, even if they are of a different cloth.  I can not say I am friends with extremist Muslims, Zionist Jews, radical Christian, Nazis, Communists, Fascists, and cut throat Capitalists, but if I had to spend my time talking with someone it is much more entertaining to have arguments with such people then to sit and sip tea with someone with whom I see eye to eye.

But there is another reason why I associate with even my polar opposite fanatics and that is because I want to influence them. A fanatic is usually a fanatic no matter what they are doing and so it would be best to siphon their fanaticism toward Hinduism and turn them against their old way. As I have said I debate and associate with (but am not necessarily friendly with ) all sorts of extremists, but I know the one community I try to influence which would bring me the most flack is the White Nationalist Movement.  If you looked through my facebook list you would find mostly Hindus, but also sprinkles of White Alt-Righters who spew venomous racism and hatred, even for Hindus (and gays, which I am gay). I am sure that at some point in time, since I am so controversial, that this could be used against me and so let me lay the record straight.

One thing I admire about Indian Hindus is that they have concern for their race and nationality, they wish to see India and the Indian race thrive, expand and evolve. I also see that many Indian Hindus also realize that this is a natural desire and they respect it within other races. However, as it is obvious to see, there is one race which today is chastised for being race conscious and that is the White race. Now yes I can understand why people would take exception to the White race since they were the most recent colonizers of the earth and did the greatest amount of damage, but other races have also been horrific to others and themselves... just look at what the Arabs did in Persia and the Turks did in India, Hindus cannot deny that it has not only been the White race which has caused them grief.

Now I hope that most Hindus are mature enough to understand that many Whites, like all other races, have this desire for race preservation and evolution, and I also harbor these desire, just as many of you do. Let me ask every Indian Hindu here... are there not racists among you? Are there not traitors among you who side with Christians, Islamists and Leftists? Are there not Hindu sects among you whom you feel are backward, bizarre or even perhaps reprehensible?  Now let me ask you this, do you allow this condition of your fellow Indians to dampen your ardor to recreate your race and see it thrive? Would you not want to influence these people to take on your state of mind if you could?

So just like many of you, I want to influence my race to evolve, expand and further perfect itself, but just like you I am working with impure materials. The fact of the matter is that the only Whites who are race conscious come from the racialist Right, while Whites on the Left  tend to be against thinking in White racial terms. If you wanted to advance your race who would you target for subversion? This may come as a surprise to many Hindus but in many ways the White Right is much closer to adopting Hinduism than the Left is. While the Left tends to be atheist, there is a lot of paganism on the White Right and those who are Christian already have their mind bent toward religion so of course they would be more open to discussion. Because of their obsession with "Aryanism" those on the White Right are also much more open to learning about the Vedas which they believe were written by their White ancestors, whether this is true or not.

And who said that Hinduism cannot dampen the negative racism on the right? Who says they cannot further appreciate the Indian race for Hinduism and perhaps rethink their malice? Am I not allowed to try to save my race? Am I not allowed to try to change my race? I believe Hinduism is the best system for evolving humanity, so why wouldn't I want it for my race, especially to correct them in their errors? I know my race is not perfect, no race is perfect, but I believe all races can be perfected under Hinduism and so I am trying to bring this religion to my people whether they deserve it or not. I don't think anyone would curse me for trying to influence Communists and Christians toward Hinduism for there own good, so I ask that the Hindu community understand my intentions here and not get any wrong ideas. 

The odd position of psychics and astrologers in Hinduism

It was around the age of 12 that I began to rebel against my Christian upbringing. The first anti-Christian movement I turned to was witchcraft, or at least what has been popularized as witchcraft in the West over the past half century. I got as many books as I could at the library about magic, superstitions, palmistry, astrology and spell-casting. As a child, I always hated the Israelites in the bible who were invading the pagan land of Canaan and who were instructed to kill and slay all the astrologers, omen readers and sorcerers. Fortune-telling and astrology are strictly forbidden in the bible. 

No divination or witchcraft 

"Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead." - Deuteronomy 18:10-11

No astrology 

"And beware not to lift up your eyes to heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and be drawn away and worship them and serve them, those which the LORD your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven." - Deuteronomy 4:19,

Kill those who read omens 

"'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.'" - Leviticus 20:27

Whenever I heard these pronouncements against the diviners and especially the calls to have them killed, I would become very angry and I took these versus very personally. My childhood instilled in me a strong passion to defend divination.

One of things that attracted myself and so many other people to Hinduism is its accent of divination. Hinduism is full of astrology, palmistry, numerology and other omen reading, and it figures quite prominently. From all of its advertisement one would obviously come to think that of course Hinduism takes no exception with the divining arts, but recently I found out that that is not necessarily true.

The Samhita Vedas (old Vedas) do not mention much about astrology or the like, but there is definitely opinions on divination in some of the less authoritative texts such as legal treatises produced under certain Vedic kingdoms and some verses from the Mahabharata. Here are just a few negative laws and statements against fortune telling in the Vedic literature:

Astrologers likened to demon possessed people and enemies

"Nor one possessed by a demon, nor an enemy of the king, nor a weather-prophet, nor an astrologer, nor a malicious person, nor one self-sold, nor one who has a limb too little, nor a Bhagavritti." - The Minor Law Books by Julius Jolly: First Title: The Law of Debt, 14. False Witnesses, 183

Fortune-tellers are to be punished  

[Are  to be punished] Those who take bribes, cheats and rogues, gamblers, those who live by teaching (the performance of) auspicious ceremonies, sanctimonious hypocrites, and fortune-tellers. - Manusmriti 9.258

Ascetics may not earn alms through fortune-telling 

Neither by (explaining) prodigies and omens, nor by skill in astrology and palmistry, nor by giving advice and by the exposition (of the Sastras), let him (ascetics) ever seek to obtain alms. - Manusmriti 6.50

Astrologers are excluded from Sraddha (ancestor rituals)  

[Excluded from Sraddha] "A trainer of elephants, oxen, horses, or camels, he who subsists by astrology, a bird-fancier, and he who teaches the use of arms" - Manusmriti 3.162

Astrologer lumped in with those who hate the Vedas and other criminals  

One that setteth fire to a dwelling house, an administerer of poison, a pander, a vendor of the Soma-juice, a maker of arrows, an astrologer, one that injureth friends, an adulterer, one that causeth abortion, a violater of his preceptor's bed, a Brahmana addicted to drink, one that is sharp-speeched, a raker of old sores, an atheist, a reviler of the Vedas, and taker of bribes, one whose investiture with the sacred thread has been delayed beyond the prescribed age, one that secretly slayeth cattle, and one that slayeth him who prayeth for protection,--these all are reckoned as equal in moral turpitude as the slayers of Brahmanas. - The Mahabharata, Book 5: Udyoga Parva: Section XXXV

Now if this is all Hinduism had to say about reading omens and astrology, I would have a very hard time accepting it and it would not go along with the current Hindu culture which is steeped in astrology and divination. However, this is not where the Vedic literature ends on divination and so here are a few positive things the Vedas have to say about astrology: 

The Brahmanas (holy books) contain knowledge on astrology 

There are, with us, many aged Brahmanas, versed in various sciences, of amiable behaviour, well-born, acquainted with the cycle of the years, engaged in the study of astrology, capable of understanding with certainty the motions of planets and the conjunctions of stars as also of explaining the mysteries of fate, and answering questions relating to the future, acquainted with the signs of the Zodiac, and versed with the occurrences of every hour, who are prophesying the great destruction of the Kurus and the Srinjayas, and the ultimate victory of the Pandavas, so that Yudhishthira, who never made an enemy, already regardeth his objects fulfilled in consequence of the slaughter of his foes. - The Mahabharata, Book 5: Udyoga Parva: Sanat-sujata Parva: Section XLVIII

A King should entertain astrologers 

He [the King] should entertain with honour and attention preceptors (of different sciences), Ritwijas, and priests, mighty bowmen, persons skilled in architecture, astronomers and astrologers, and physicians, as also all men possessed of wisdom and intelligence and self-restraint and cleverness and courage and learning and high birth and energy of mind, and capable of close application to all kinds of work. - The Mahabharata, Book 12: Santi Parva: Rajadharmanusasana Parva: Section LXXXVI

Astrologers produce victories and ward off calamities 

When the gods become angry and inert are urged by fate, persons of learning,

beholding everything with the eye of heavenly knowledge, perform diverse auspicious acts and expiatory rites including homa and the silent recitation of mantras, and thus allay all evils. (1) 

FOOTNOTES

1: The object of these two verses is to indicate that a learned astrologer and a learned priest are certain means for procuring victories by warding off all calamities caused by unpropitious fate and the wrath of the gods. 

- The Mahabharata, Book 12: Santi Parva: Rajadharmanusasana Parva: Section CII

Astrology is contained within the holy books of the Vedangas  

In the matter, again of all sacrifices ordained in the Sutras, of that Vedanga which deals

with religious rites and observances, astrology and astronomy the reborn Rishi attained great excellence. - The Mahabharata, Book 13: Anusasana Parva: Anusasanika Parva: Section X

Astrology is one of the eight limbs of a Vedic kingdom 

Then the son of Amvika, O monarch, addressing Kunti's son who was seated near him and touching his back with his hand, said, 'Thou shouldst always, O delighter of the Kurus, act without heedlessness as regards everything connected with thy kingdom consisting of eight limbs, O foremost  of rulers, and in which the claims of righteousness should ever be kept foremost. (1) 

FOOTNOTES

1. The eight limbs of a kingdom are the law, the judge, the assessors, the scribe, the astrologer, gold, fire, and water. 

- The Mahabharata, Book 15: Asramavasika Parva: Asramavasa Parva: Section V

Treatises on astrology are counted among the four Samhita Vedas  

"The holy one said, 'In the Rigveda, in the Yajurveda, in the Atharvans and the Samans, in the Puranas and the Upanishads, as also in the treatises on Astrology, O Arjuna, in the Sankhya scriptures, in the Yoga scriptures, and in the treatises also on the Science of Life, many are the names that have been mentioned by the great Rishis. - The Mahabharata, Book 12: Santi Parva: Section CCCXLII

Consult astrology to find out which constellations are forbidden  

"Indeed, in this respect, all these constellations should be avoided which are forbidden in treatises on astrology." - The Mahabharata, Book 13: Anusasana Parva: Section CIV

King Yudhisthira consults astrologers on the future of his son 

"Thus those who were expert in astrological knowledge and in performance of the birth ceremony instructed King Yudhisthira about the future history of his child. Then, being sumptuously remunerated, they all returned to their respective homes." - Bhagavata Purana, Chapter 12, verse 29

So as usual, nothing is ever black and white in Hinduism, and that includes sentiments on divination. But I cannot help but wonder why there is still a shadow cast over astrology, palmistry, and fortune-telling in some the of the Vedic laws and texts. What is it about these arts that create such a mixed reaction in Hinduism? Does anyone know?

Did Krishna and Dattatreya condone prostitution?

Some weeks ago I wrote a post on why Hindus should take over the sex industry (here), I have also explained why I worship the god of sex and love, Kama Deva (here). I know these sentiments may come as a shock to many Hindus, but I think we all need to admit that prostitution has always existed in Hindu society, and there have been different opinions on it. 

I don't think most Hindus would say that sexual tantra is not Hinduism, whether you like it or not, tantra is part of the Hindu experience. But what is most important about tantra is that Hinduism has made a space for its legitimate practice, and so has sublimated the desire into the greater society in a way which spiritualizes sex rather than leaving it to be gobbled up by the lower elements who only pander it as smut. 

Sex and tantra are always going to exist, so you might as well make it for the gods and the best of society, many tantric practitioners use the sexual movements to awaken their consciousness and thus gain a closer understanding and relationship with god. Whatever you think about it, this is how Hinduism has dealt with it, and that is not going to change. But what do the Vedas say about prostitution? 

According to one Hindu law book, the Manusmriti, those who were born to prostitutes should not be elected as king. 

Let him not accept presents from a king who is not descended from the Kshatriya race, nor from butchers, oil-manufacturers, and publicans, nor from those who subsist by the gain of prostitutes. - Manusmriti 4.84

The Bhagavata Purana states that it is best to cohabit with ones own wife, below this in morality is cohabitation with prostitutes and worse still is to stay with the wife of another (or husband, women can cheat too!)

That which describes the people to live with their legitimate wives is the best; which describes about prostitutes is the middling; and that which makes people live with other's wives is the worst. - Bhagavata Purana, Book 1, Chapter 6, Verses 1-44

So is that the end of it? Are Hindus totally banned from practicing prostitution for all time? One of my favorite holy teachers is Dattatreya (here) who wrote the Avadahoot Gita. In the Vishnu Purana it is said that Dattatreya looked not to gurus for his understanding of the universe but to animals, and also, yes you guessed it, prostitutes.  If prostitution was totally taboo how on earth could it be the vehicle for holy knowledge? Hinduism is a monistic religion, even evil has something to teach us and has its place in the story, can't the gods appear in any form? Isn't there a road of dharma for every type of person? If these prostitutes were keeping the company of a holy man and teaching him divine wisdom no less than there must be some exception to the exception against prostitution. 

Lord narrated thus: "Uddhav, Once, our ancestor Yadu happened to see Lord Dattatreya in a forest. Lord was indulged in the supreme joy in the guise of Avadhoot. Yadu asked him about the reasons for his whimsical state. Avadhoot had said: "O king, making the various animals, birds, insects etc as my teacher, I have learned about spirituality from them. That is why I am free from mourning and attachment. Earth, air, sky, water, fire, the moon the sun, pigeon, python, sea, grasshopper, bumblebee, honey bee, elephant, extractor of honey, deer, fish, prostitute, osprey, boy, girls, arrow-maker, snake, spider and wasp are all my teachers. I took refuge at these twenty-four teachers and learned from their behaviour. - Vishnu Purana, Chapter 3, Verse 6

But perhaps the most telling story of all is one where Lord Krishna happens upon a hunchback woman named Trivakra who is a seller of oils which produce ecstasy. Trivakra shows respect for Krishna by giving him much of her oil, and in return Krishna transforms here from a hunchback into a beautiful women. Trivakra then makes it clear she lusts for the men of Krishna's party. Krishan then blesses her by telling her that his men will visit her house where they may "relieve their anxiety" and that her home is a refuge for travelers, obviously men who would pay for room and board and receive sexual favors as well from the now blessed Trivakra, this also implied from the fact that Trivakra is a peddler of ecstasy ointments.

Canto 10

Chapter Forty-Two The Breaking of the Sacrificial Bow

1. Sukadeva Gosvami said: As He walked down the King’s road, Lord Madhava then saw a young
hunchback woman with an attractive face, who carried a tray of fragrant ointments as she walked along.
The bestower of the ecstasy of love smiled and inquired from her as follows.
2. [Lord Krsna said:] Who are you, O beautiful-thighed one? Ah, ointment! Who is it for, my dear lady?
Please tell Us truthfully. Give Us both some of your finest ointment and you will soon gain a great boon.
3. The maidservant replied: O handsome one, I am a servant of King Kamsa, who highly regards me for
the ointments I make. My name is Trivakra. Who else but You two deserve my ointments, which the lord
of the Bhojas likes so much?
4. Her mind overwhelmed by Krsna’s beauty, charm, sweetness, smiles, words and glances, Trivakra
gave both Krsna and Balarama generous amounts of ointment.
5. Anointed with these most excellent cosmetics, which adorned Them with hues that contrasted with
Their complexions, the two Lords appeared extremely beautiful.
6. Lord Krsna was pleased with Trivakra, so He decided to straighten that hunchbacked girl with the
lovely face just to demonstrate the result of seeing Him.
7. Pressing down on her toes with both His feet, Lord Acyuta placed one upward-pointing finger of each
hand under her chin and straightened up her body.
8. Simply by Lord Mukunda’s touch, Trivakra was suddenly transformed into an exquisitely beautiful
woman with straight, evenly proportioned limbs and large hips and breasts.
9. Now endowed with beauty, character and generosity Trivakra began to feel lusty desires for Lord
Kesava. Taking hold of the end of His upper cloth, she smiled and addressed Him as follows.
10. [Trivakra said:] Come, O hero, let us go to my house. I cannot bear to leave You here. O best of
males, please take pity on me, since You have agitated my mind.
11. Thus entreated by the woman, Lord Krsna first glanced at the face of Balarama, who was watching
the incident, and then at the faces of the cowherd boys. Then with a laugh Krsna replied to her as
follows.
12. [Lord Krsna said:] O lady with beautiful eyebrows, as soon as I fulfill My purpose I will certainly visit
your house, where men can relieve their anxiety. Indeed, you are the best refuge for Us homeless
travelers.

So is prostitution totally invalid in Hinduism? Some sources say that kings should not be born of prostitutes and that it is less moral to keep their company than that of a wife (or husband). However prostitutes were the source of teaching for Dattatreya and Krishna seemed to condone the prostitution of Trivakra. Nothing is totally black and white in Hinduism, so it makes sense neither would be the Hindu position on prostitution. 

NYC Hindu conference and rally for CAA

On December 29th, 2019 I was invited to attend both a conference put on by the Indian American Intellectuals Forum and a separate rally by NYC Hindus in support of CAA. The 2019 CAA bill in India gives citizenship to Hindus who are being persecuted in the Muslim nations of Bangladesh, Pakistan and Afghanistan. This has caused Muslims to riot in India. Here are highlights from the conference and pictures from the rally.

I could not catch the names of all the speakers in order but hear is a list of who spoke at the conference: Dr Narindar Kukar, Dr. Basuli Deb, Mr Vibhuti Jha, Prof.  Dwijen Bhattacharya, Mr Sitangshu Guha, Mr Pabitra Chaudhuri and Prof. Sabyasachi Ghosh Dastidar

 

Arish Sahani
Indian American Intellectuals Forum

I have some question. Hinduism is humane, educated and the oldest culture that exists. Our enemies have a clear goal. Are you telling people about this? Have you told people they are bad, why not? Do you have a leader who can speak for you? Do you know the history of Christianity, Islam and conversion? Hindus are unique. These questions should be in your mind. You should know what Christians and Muslims are doing in India, you have internet, use google search, why did they convert, why can't they come back? Hindus are not doing anything because we are not united. We have no leaders? They don't know what to do? Islam destroyed the Mid East, Pakistani and Bangladeshi Muslims don't want to live in their own Muslim nations. We must spread our Hindu culture, invite Hindus to come back to India, there is no Hindu Nation. Muslims are bringing violence about CAA. Be a proud Hindu. Know why you are here and what you can do for your country. We need leaders. The Hindu majority can be lost. We can only survive if we do something and our children see us sacrifice. Make use of America to help India.

Speaker 2

What is life like for Pakistani and Bangladeshi Hindus? In 1947 trains came from Pakistan with dead bodies, these are my childhood memories. Any nation who helps the oppressed is rewarded and respected. CAA after 73 years is a correcting measure. People are walking for days to get to India, but none are speaking about it. In Kashmir in 1990 from the Masjid loud speakers they said leave your daughters and go. Bangladeshi Hindus have been suffering sine 1971, most don't use the straight words, massacred. Even through Western Journalism and  human rights groups some times speak up, Hindus are silent. What can Bangladeshi Hindus do? Write open letters to newspapers, send petitions to ministers, those who committed the crimes should be prosecuted because the Bangladeshi government won't do it, only the government India; raise this in international courts. There is no reaction by educated people. They know about Bangladeshi Hindus' daughters being raped before family but there is nothing in the Indian newspapers. Are we dumb or stupid? If you don't speak none will know. Take out warning ads in the Bangladeshi newspapers. Say we need to rescue Hindus from "Islam", don't say Bangladeshi government, name the enemy, "Islam". While Hindus elaborate on their arguments the Muslims are sharpening their swords. Hindus are reasonable people but go and do something. Hindus should file suit against the Bangladeshi government in USA courts. Have whites file suits in white countries, it gets attention. I get death threats but I'm still alive. Gita says take action, don't worry about the results. We need to come up with an action plan and take some action. Inform yourself, get media attention, protest with signs, use social Media. Tell your stories. Hindu principles are going to save the world.

Speaker 3

Thank you India for rescuing Bangladeshi people, thanks for CAA, we are the direct beneficiaries. There are more than 50 Islamic nations, they can take care of Muslims, there are only 2 Hindu majority nations (India & Nepal). Hindus need a shelter to go to, this is what CAA does. Look at what just happened with the slaughter of Nigerian Christians. Bangladeshi Nationalist Party secretary general said no minority persecution  is going on in Bangladesh yet Bangladeshi massacres/rapes are well documented. The Enemy Property Act calls Hindus "enemies" and has taken 3 million acres from them. CAA has nothing to do with Muslims in India. What to do? Social media, we meed to show masses supporting CAA on social media. We must do more writing. The percentage of  Muslims in West Bengal is approx 40%, this is 30 years of Communist party rule and the Didi government in vote bank politics. If Didi gets another 5 years, they will be hoisting Islamic Flags in West Bengal. If West Bengal burns all of North East will go. A solid plan is needed, Modi/BJP must win in West Bengal in 2020 or 2021. Hindus have been persecuted for hundreds of years, our divisions are destroying us, Modi/BJP is the only way. If a country becomes 16% Muslim it becomes an Islamic country because they have a plan. Hindus are academic and secular, if we stay like this then no India, there is barely any research done on Hindu genocides, intellectuals are not working on it, now or never.

Speaker 4

India was divided on religion only due to uncle Gandhi's leadership. Bangladeshi leaders wanted it this way. My family were Bengali Brahmins, my family was told to leave. My dad told me one day help those who became like us. Being Hindu is the most valuable thing you have, use it. Say it, don't just think about it, they think our gentleness we will never allow us to attack their atrocities. Raise your voice for tortured Hindus, no others know our pain unless we speak. Thank god you are Hindu and can do something. Gita says if you do god will help, if you fight you have reaction but when you win it gives much help.

Satya Dosapati

Hinduism speaks for diversity, inclusiveness and is open to science. If we lose Hinduism not only we lose but humanity will lose. Hinduism is the answer to the problems of the world. We must support BJP. Western media does not focus on the good of CAA, only Muslim riots, and Christians are using CAA Hindu/Muslim divide to convert. Inform yourself, no Western media talks about this, make the media, protest with signs and spread it on social media. Tell your stories. Hindu principles are going to save the world. The Christian West wants to harp on Rohingyas to divert attention away from India's problems. They want to use Muslim/Hindu cultural fight to pave way for the control of India. They want India to be weak, they don't want another China.

Speaker 6

CAA is asylum law for victims. There is asylum laws for the persecuted in the USA, why not for Hindus in India? Also, the demographic is changing in India, this will change the culture. West Bengal is now different from decades ago. There are talks of West Bengal cessation. Muslims are gaining power and want West Bengal. This will spread if nothing is done.

Speaker 7

For CAA thank you Modi and Indian government, If Hinduism dies in India that is end of the world. Like Israel India should let in any Hindu in the world, Modi should do this. CAA effects Bengalis mostly. Victims need to get benefits, we must not let Bangladeshi atrocities go in vain. The mainstream media is biased against CAA. Ram Krishna Mission wrote against CAA, if Bangladesh becomes Muslim they will have not place to practice.

Sitanghsu Guha
Bangladeshi Hindu Buddhist Christian Unity Council

Bangladeshi Hindus want to live in Bangladesh in peace. Keep Modi in power. Next step uniform civil code.

Vincent Bruno
www.JusticeForHindus.org

I gave a speak on how I visited the Pakistani Hindu refugee camps in Delhi and saw the children there. Now they have citizenship. Why do Muslims from Bangladesh of Pakistan need refugee status? They are not fleeing any nation. There are Hindu refugee camps in India but no Muslim refugee camps. That is why we need CAA. Video of my speech below:

Speaker 10

Under the disguise of secularism the Hindu holocaust is being ignored. Muslim immigration does not support secularism. Society is destroyed when good people act like intellectuals.